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A12hammer 7:46 Mon Aug 29
Are Rangers the same football club?

Had a few beers yesterday with a couple of Scottish mates. The subject of whether, or not, Rangers are the same club since the company liquidation in 2012 was discussed. They both say it's the same club. History, honours, the lot. I've not really given it much thought before.

What do the geniuses of WHO think?

pdbis 1:15 Sat Sep 3
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Just like Celtic they still care more about religious nonsense than football.They will never play down south because of this.

Geoff 2:15 Wed Aug 31
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alfie romeo 12:38 Wed Aug 31
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"couldn't give a shit. backwater league. Like the league of Wales. Their best hope is for a european super league to rescue them & celtic "

Only problem is they'd be nowhere near the standard required for a super league. Makes me chuckle when people say how tough Man City's CL group is. OK Barcelona are a bit tasty and Monchengladbach might pick up a point against the big boys at home. But CELTIC !!! Don't make me laugh.

WorldCupWilly 12:22 Wed Aug 31
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:45 Wed Aug 31

Chelsea, Wolves, Leeds and Portsmouth are still the same club as none of those were ever liquidated. They may have been close and been in administration, but they paid their debts (or reached an agreement with their creditors) and therefore came out of administration.

Accrington Stanley were the first Football League club to go bust, followed by Aldershot and Maidstone. Other former League clubs have gone bust when playing non-League football. All the others have continued to be the same club..

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:45 Wed Aug 31
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Dave M 4:32 Tue Aug 30

'They're not the same club.

1. They were liquidated.

2. The money they owed to a lot of people was not paid. Even surrounding businesses like facepainters and a florist were not paid.

3. Any clubb wishing to join the league has to play in Amatuer football for AT LEAST 2 years before being allowed to apply for league status.'

Off the top of my head that means that Chelsea, Wolves, Leeds and Portsmouth 'aren't the same club' as they were in the 70s. I'm sure there are more.

normannomates 12:49 Wed Aug 31
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Kiwi?

bruuuno 12:47 Wed Aug 31
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If your dad blacks up and calls himself leroy is he still your dad?

alfie romeo 12:38 Wed Aug 31
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couldn't give a shit. backwater league. Like the league of Wales. Their best hope is for a european super league to rescue them & celtic

normannomates 12:37 Wed Aug 31
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RANGERS are and always will be a great..great club.
Best support in Britain bar none

Hasans Fish Bar RIP 12:31 Wed Aug 31
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Would Celtic fans be happy being a completely'new' club if they were allowed to join the premier league? They would have to be a new club having not entered it in the proper manner? Ie not climbing the pyramid

WorldCupWilly 12:17 Wed Aug 31
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Sven Roeder 9:26 Tue Aug 30

I would normally want to acclaim the amazing rise - but for a new club that raised £70m in an IPO and blown the lot playing against teams of part timers whose players held down jobs as plumbers, brickies, posties, etc. Then they can't even get promoted from the Championship at the first attempt!

They now can't even afford to buy any players - relying on loans and free transfers - but still have a salary bill 10 times that of Kilmarnock that they can't even beat! Now they're having to play full-time teams they're struggling!

Then they pretend they're a big club by going after Joleon Lescott and then they can't afford him (despite Villa going to pay his first year's salary). Someone from Rangers said he failed his medical, whilst someone else said he didn't want to move his family from Manchester. A few days later, he's passed a medical at AEK and him and his family are off to that famous Manchester suburb of Athens!

Yep it's been an amazing rise, but now the money's run out, that's as far as they're going.

Worst Case Ontario 10:32 Tue Aug 30
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They are the same club. Much the same way AFC Wimbledon is Wimbledon.

It's the supporters that make the club - isn't that what we as supporters always say?

I'd feel the same if Celtic, Tottenham, or Millwall was liquidated too.

Dave M 4:32 Tue Aug 30
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They're not the same club.

1. They were liquidated.

2. The money they owed to a lot of people was not paid. Even surrounding businesses like facepainters and a florist were not paid.

3. Any clubb wishing to join the league has to play in Amatuer football for AT LEAST 2 years before being allowed to apply for league status.
The new Rangers club skipped other clubs who have been waiting for years.


They were allowed to take on the old Rangers football credits because basically everyone shat it from them.

They are without any doubt a new club, gifted the footballing merits of a dead one.

Sven Roeder 9:26 Tue Aug 30
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If that's the case I am sure you will want to acclaim the amazing rise to the top division of a completely new club.
They have done brilliantly haven't they?

Sounds like normal football banter to me
And with such a third world league I guess it is something to talk about
From the 70's where the top Scottish players were the backbone to the likes of Liverpool to now is a catastrophic collapse.

Lertie Button 9:16 Tue Aug 30
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Why do we care, a nasty joke of a club

joe blob 1:51 Tue Aug 30
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I remember in the 60s and 70 the scotch people I knew used to say that "The scottish fitba'er is the finest in the wurrrld."

You don't hear any of that shit now.

WorldCupWilly 12:59 Tue Aug 30
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Sven Roeder 8:00 Mon Aug 29

Well every other club that Sevco had played in the last 4 years think it's an issue. The opposition fans at every match that they played all sing "Your not Rangers anymore!"


Why would old Rangers have a vote in whether the new club should be omitted to the Premier division if they were the same club.

Who was it that played at Brechin City whilst the old Rangers still had the license to play (but had no players or ground). They had a special license to play that match.

Why do they have a new company number whilst the old company still exists and is going through liquidation. Celtic still have the original company number from when they were formed 125+ years ago.

Why did Sevco enter the 3rd division of Scottish football having finished 2nd in the top division the year before. There's no rule to demote any club by 3 divisions - only a rule that a new club has to enter the bottom division.

Why did they play in the 1st round of the Scottish cup when all top teams don't start until later rounds?

Of course they are a new club!

andyd12345 12:31 Tue Aug 30
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They are the same club in the way that triggers sweeper with 11 new handled and 21 new heads in the same broom.

gph 12:29 Tue Aug 30
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How many angels can dance on the point of a pin?

And does it matter if they are Protestant or Catholic angels?

NHD 12:21 Tue Aug 30
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No surrender

collyrob 11:44 Mon Aug 29
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Rangers were abolished, they cheated and ripped off the British taxpayer. They were rightly punished, let's hope sevco don't go down the same route.

Geoff 11:40 Mon Aug 29
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Well the old Rangers were an irrelevance as far as serious football competitions were concerned. So are the new lot. So I guess a case could be made that they are. But as others have said, does anyone really care?

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